How I Renounced Indonesian Citizenship in 2020

I’ve been deliberating for months whether I want to write this post. On one hand, this blog is a finance blog and has nothing to do with citizenship renunciation.

But, on the other hand, I really want to help people who are trying to renounce their citizenship but don’t know how. Before 2020, the process was easy peasy and can be completed really quickly. But in 2020, the government overhauled the citizenship renunciation procedure starting from January 2020 and there was very little guide on how to do it correctly.

I decided to write this post to let you know that if you’re currently banging your head on the wall, you’re not alone, and you’ll get through this.

This post is solely focused on renouncing Indonesian Citizen and becoming a Singapore Citizen. Because that’s what I did. If you’re living in other countries, I’m sorry I don’t know whether the procedure is similar or not, because I heard that KBRI in other countries may/may not provide the same service as KBRI in Singapore.

Introduction

I still vividly remember how frantic I was when I got the Approval-in-Principle from ICA in February 2020. I literally knew no one in my social circle that has completed the renunciation through the new SAKE system.

I called KBRI to ask but they gave me an Indonesian phone number which they claimed is the contact person of AHU; I contacted the number and asked about the procedures but received no reply! I went to Tan Lee & Choo (the notary which helped a lot of Indonesian to renounce before 2020) and they gave me some rough guide and said that there’s no guarantee it’s correct.

I followed Tan Lee Choo’s guide and went to KBRI to get my documents legalized. There, I met a stranger who has completed the renunciation process. I asked him for guidance and he referred me to his friend.

His friend was so helpful in guiding me through each and every step. She sent me the link to PDF guides (in Bahasa Indonesian) prepared by her friend who had completed the renunciation journey early in 2020. That lady and the pdf saved my life!

To pay it forward, I decided to write this post, to help Indonesian who are converting to Singaporean, who are not familiar with Bahasa Indonesia, and who are trying to renounce in the age of ‘rona or “coco and vid” (you know, the one who should not be named).

Renunciation during the ‘rona reign is so challenging, and it doesn’t help that AHU changes their requirement often (sometimes, every month, it’s so frustrating!), KBRI being not helpful and not allowing walk-in visitors, and the persistent travel restrictions.

In this post, I’ll do my best to walk you through the renunciation process from the day you get your AIP, until you take the oath at ICA.

TABLE OF CONTENT
A. What to do when you get AIP
i) Complete Singapore Citizenship Journey
ii) Prepare documents
iii) Look for sworn translators
iv) Look for Indonesian notary
v) Look for materai

B. What to do when you get the final approval letter from ICA
1. Translate the documents from English to Bahasa Indonesia
2. Send the required documents to Indonesian notary to get it legalized
3. Scan these documents in JPG/JPEG/PNG format in color
4. Register SAKE account
5. Choose the correct option
6. Fill up the form
7. Download Surat Permohonan
8. Upload the documents
9. Choose Payment Method
10. Make Payment
11. Send the hardcopy documents to AHU Office in Jakarta
12. Keep praying and checking the SAKE system
13. If there is error in your application
14. If you get all green, congratulations!
15. Download the approval document and get it translated
16. Make appointment with KBRI to surrender your Indonesian passport
17. Make appointment with KBRI Consular to legalize the approved AHU Letter
18. Surrender your Indonesian passport
19. Legalize your AHU approval letter
20. Go to ICA for Oath taking and submission of necessary documents

FAQ
Please Note

A. What to do when you get AIP

If you’re reading this article, I’m 99% sure that you are either waiting for your Approval-in-Principle from ICA, or you’ve already received the AIP.

When you receive the AIP, you CAN’T renounce your citizenship YET. You’re supposed to complete the citizenship journey first, then ICA will send you a final approval letter, then you’ll be able to renounce your citizenship.

Here are the things you need to do when you got AIP.

i) Complete Singapore Citizenship Journey

I received my AIP hardcopy letter in February 2020 before the world came to a standstill.

I immediately logged in to SC Journey website to start my journey. I was that eager!

The first thing I did was to complete the e-journey. Basically there were several videos that you have to watch and questions you must answer. It took me less than half a day to complete.

The second thing we have to complete in SC Journey is attending a Singapore Experiential Tour. During my time, the tour was a physical tour held in various museum and historical landmarks. But I heard that they changed the tour to be a virtual tour after ‘rona turned the world upside down.

Lastly, we have to attend a Community Sharing Session. There were only one session a month so I was quite lucky to get a slot for the next month in March 2020.

The deadline to complete all 3 activities in the SC Journey is 2 months from the issue date of AIP. If you’re having difficulties to meet the deadline, you may contact SC Journey team for assistance.

ii) Prepare documents

While waiting for the tour or sharing session, you can try to prepare some documents so that when you receive the final approval letter, you’re ready to get into action.

Here are the documents that you need to prepare in this stage:

  • Original Passport
  • Original Birth Certificate
  • KK (Kartu Keluarga) – you don’t need to hold the original KK, you just need to note down the KK number and your NIK number
  • Original KTP (Kartu Tanda Penduduk)
  • Original ROM Certificate, if any
  • Original Indonesian Marriage Certificate, if any
  • 2pcs of Photo (size 4×6) with red background

iii) Look for sworn translators

At this stage, you don’t need to translate documents yet. You’ll need to translate certain documents later in this journey, so it’s better to start looking for a sworn translator that you are comfortable with.

For me, I use Anwar from Tan, Lee & Choo. He can be contacted through Whatsapp (+65 9650 5794) and email ([email protected]). He charged me SGD 30 per document. He is really fast (mainly because he has already setup a template that he can reuse), but could make mistakes sometimes, so you need to ask him to send you the draft before you proceed to collect the document from him.

Anyway, you can use ANY sworn translators. But other translators may need more time because they may not be familiar with the content of the documents to be translated.

iv) Look for Indonesian notary

At this stage, you don’t need to legalize documents yet. You’ll need to legalize certain documents later in this journey, so it’s better to start looking for a notary that you are comfortable with in terms of price, procedure, timeline.

SAKE team only accepts documents that are legalized by Indonesian notary. But since we’re stuck in Singapore, what can you do? Well, you can send your original document via DHL or Fedex to an Indonesian notary, then they will send back the original document and legalized document back to you via DHL or Fedex.

Or.. You can find notary that don’t require you to send original document to them, they accept softcopy or original document, but they’re usually more expensive.

Here are some notary recommendation that you can start contacting to find out about their latest fee, procedure and timeline:

  • Bun Hai in Batam (email: [email protected]). From my own experience, Bun Hai requires you to send your original documents to his office in Batam via courier, then after he legalize them, he will send back the original documents to you via courier. Of course, you have to pay for the 2-way courier fees. I don’t know his current price because he kept revising his fee, so it’s better that you ask him directly.
  • Deny in Jakarta (whatsapp: +6281221316369). I did not engage Deny, but I heard that he accepts scanned copy of documents, so you can save your anxiety over losing your original documents while they’re on the way. I heard that Deny’s fee is quite expensive, I suggest you ask him directly for this latest fee and whether he still accept scanned copy of documents.

As for me, I wasted so much money trying to engage 3 different notaries: 1 in my hometown, Bun Hai and KBRI. I recommend that you only engage 1 notary to save courier fee and headache.

v) Look for materai

You’ll need 1 materai to be used on the application form. But I suggest you prepare 2, just in case your application gets rejected and you need to resubmit.

Do note that the new materai costs IDR 10,000. The old materai of IDR 6,000 still can be used in 2021, but from 2022 onwards it’s compulsory to use the IDR 10,000 materai. To be safe, just use IDR 10,000 in case SAKE doesn’t accept the old materai.

B. What to do when you get the final approval letter from ICA

Within 1 or 2 weeks upon the completion of SC Journey, you can expect the final approval letter from ICA. Once you receive this golden letter, it’s time to go into full action.

ICA’s letter will state the date you’re supposed to report at ICA Citizenship Unit for oath taking. And, there’s 99% probability that you can’t meet the date set by ICA. So, just email ICA to explain about your situation and ask for extension. Most of the time, they’re quite understanding and will extend your deadline for you. Don’t inform them too late! Otherwise you’ll be counted as having missed your appointment once.

1. Translate the documents from English to Bahasa Indonesia

Here are the documents that you need to translate from English to Bahasa Indonesia:

  • ICA’s final approval letter. Not the Approval-in-Principle letter, but the final one that you receive after you complete SC Journey.
  • ROM Certificate, if any. If you’re married in Singapore and you only have a ROM Cert, then just translate the ROM Cert. However, if you got married in Indonesia, you don’t need to translate your Indonesian Marriage Cert because it’s already in Indonesian language.

If you’re wondering how to get your documents translated to Bahasa, scroll to the top and read the section about “Look for sworn translators.”

2. Send the required documents to Indonesian notary to get it legalized

Next, you need to send the following documents to an Indonesian notary to get them legalized:

  • Original Passport
  • Original Birth Certificate
  • Original KTP (Kartu Tanda Penduduk)
  • Original ROM Certificate, if any (both in English and Indonesian)
  • Original Indonesian Marriage Certificate, if any
  • ICA’s final approval letter (both in English and Indonesian)

If you’re wondering how to get documents legalized in Indonesia while you’re still stuck in Singapore, scroll to the top and read the section about “Look for Indonesian notary.”

3. Scan these documents in JPG/JPEG/PNG format in color

After you get your documents back from the Indonesian notary, it’s time to get them scanned into JPG/JPEG/PNG format. The maximum size per file is 500kb. Here are the documents to be scanned in color (not black and white),:

  • Original Passport & the legalized copy
  • Original Birth Certificate & the legalized copy
  • Original ROM Certificate, if any (both in English and Indonesian) & the legalized copies – If you are not married, prepare a page that says not married, then scan it
  • Original Indonesian Marriage Certificate, if any & the legalized copy
  • ICA’s final approval letter (both in English and Indonesian) & the legalized copies
  • Photo of 4×6. Do crop the photo into the correct size (4cm by 6cm).

4. Register SAKE account

Now, go to AHU SAKE website and register for a new account. After you register, you have to wait for a while for the confirmation email from AHU.

When you receive the AHU confirmation email, click “Aktivasi Akun Anda” in the email. Only after doing that, you’ll be able to log in to SAKE system.

confirmation email from sake
This is the confirmation email from SAKE. Remember to click the button to activate your account.

5. Choose the correct option

Once you log in, you’ll be able to enter the homepage (aka beranda), where you’ll see 8 options. Choose: PERMOHONAN SURAT KETERANGAN KEHILANGAN KEWARGANEGARAAN RI ATAS KEMAUAN SENDIRI BAGI ORANG YANG BELUM MEMPEROLEH KEWARGANEGARAAN ASING.

Do not choose the option that says “kepada Presiden” because this option will take you a longer time to complete.

If you’re applying for kids under 18 years old, choose the one that says PERMOHONAN SURAT KETERANGAN KEHILANGAN KEWARGANEGARAAN RI ATAS KEMAUAN SENDIRI BAGI ORANG YANG TELAH MEMPEROLEH KEWARGANEGARAAN ASING.

choose the correct option in sake
This is the option I chose (click to enlarge)

6. Fill up the form

Next, it’s time to fill up the form!

The first form that you need to fill is about yourself.

fill up sake form (1)
First form is about your self (1/2)
fill up sake form (2)
First form is about your self (2/2)
  • Nama: Your full name
  • NIK: Your NIK number which can be found in your KK or KTP
  • Jenis Kelamin: Your gender
  • Status Perkawinan: Your marital status
  • Tempat Lahir: Your birthplace
  • Tanggal Lahir: Your birthday
  • Alamat Email: Your email
  • No Handphone: Your handphone number without country code
  • No Telp: Your house phone number, if any
  • Pekerjaan: Your occupation
  • Surat Keterangan Naturalisasi: Your application number that can be found in ICA’s approval letter
  • Alamat Indonesia: Your address in Indonesia
  • Alamat Luar Negeri: Your overseas address
  • Negara: Your country of residence
  • Akta Lahir Nomor: Your birth cert reference number
  • Akta Lahir Tanggal: Your birth cert date of issue (not your birthday)
  • Akta Perkawinan Nomor: Your marriage cert reference number
  • Akta Perkawinan Tanggal: Your marriage cert date of issue
  • Nomor Passpor Republik Indonesia: Your Indonesian Passport’s number
  • Wilayah Terbit Passpor Republik Indonesia: Your Indonesian Passport’s place of issue
  • Tanggal Habis Berlaku Passpor Republik Indonesia: Your Indonesian Passport’s expiry date

Then, click “Selanjutnya.” You’ll be asked to confirm that you’ve filled up the correct information. Click “OK”

The second form that you need to fill up is about your parent or your guardian.

fill up sake form (3)
Second form is about your parent/guardian
  • Nama: Your parent/guardian’s name
  • Tempat Lahir: Your parent/guardian’s birthplace
  • Tanggal Lahir: Your parent/guardian’s birthday
  • Status Perkawinan: Your parent/guardian’s marital status
  • Kewarganegaraan: Your parent/guardian’s nationality
  • Alamat Email: Your parent/guardian’s email
  • No Hp: Your parent/guardian’s phone number
  • Alamat Tinggal: Your parent/guardian’s address

Then, click “Selanjutnya.” You’ll be asked to confirm that you’ve filled up the correct information. Click “OK”

7. Download Surat Permohonan

Then, the Surat Permohonan will be generated for you. Click “Download” to save the file in your computer. This is a very important document.

Then, tick the box below the Download button, and click “Selanjutnya.”

ownload surat permohonan
Download surat permohonan

8. Upload the documents

Next, you need to upload the documents that you have scanned previously in Step No 3 above.

upload docs to sake
Upload your documents to SAKE
  1. Fotokopi kutipan akta lahir / bukti kelahiran dari orang yang mengajukan permohonan: upload the color scanned copy of your original birth cert and legalized copy
  2. Fotokopi kutipan akta perkawinan/buku nikah/laporan perkawinan/ surat keterangan perkawinan dari orang yang mengajukan permohonan: upload the color scanned copy of your original ROM Cert (both English & Indonesian), and the legalized copies.
  3. Fotokopi paspor Republik Indonesia, surat yang bersifat paspor, atau surat lain yang dapat membuktikan bahwa orang yang mengajukan permohonan adalah warga negara Indonesia: upload the color scanned copy of your original passport and the legalized copy
  4. Surat Keterangan Naturalisasi: upload the color scanned copy of your original ICA’s final approval letter (both English & Indonesian), and the legalized copies
  5. Pasfoto berwarna terbaru dari orang yang mengajukan pernyataan dengan ukuran 4×6 cm (empat kali enam sentimeter) sebanyak 2 (dua) lembar: upload your photo of 4×6 with red background. Do crop the photo into the correct size (4cm by 6cm).

Then, click “Selanjutnya.”

9. Choose Payment Method

Now, you’ve arrived at a page called “Pembayaran PNBP.” You need to choose whether you want to pay in Indonesia or Overseas.

 choose payment method
Choose payment method
  • Lokasi Pembayaran: Choose Dalam Negeri if you intend to pay in Indonesia, otherwise choose Luar Negeri. For me, I chose Luar Negeri.
  • Wilayah/Negara: If you chose Dalam Negeri in the previous option, now you need to choose the province from where you’ll make payment. If you chose Luar Negeri in the previous option, now you need to choose the country from where you’ll make payment. For me, I chose Singapura.

If you want to make payment in Indonesia, you need to ask your family member or friend to go to BNI counter to make the payment. Online payment wasn’t possible yet, based on what I heard.

To make payment in Singapore, there are 2 ways: through BNI at Cecil Street, or through DBS Remit. For me, I chose BNI at Cecil Street. My next step will be based on payment via BNI.

Then, click “Simpan”

10. Make Payment

You’ll now see the page titled “SURAT PERINTAH BAYAR (PERMOHONAN DI LUAR NEGERI)”

make payment to sake
This part is just the instruction and T&Cs to make payment
make payment to sake
This is Surat Perintah Bayar, which you have to download and bring to the bank in order to make payment

Here are the steps to make payment at BNI Cecil Street:

  • Click the blue button to download Surat Perintah Bayar
  • Print out Surat Perintah Bayar and bring it to BNI at Cecil Street
  • Make payment at the counter. SAKE application costs IDR 500,000. They accept SGD and they’ll convert to Rupiah.
  • Go back to BNI the next day to collect the payment receipt
  • Scan the payment receipt in color JPG/JPEG/PNG format and upload to SAKE system. The link to upload can be seen on beranda. After your upload, the link will disappear.
make payment to sake
Upload your payment receipt here

11. Send the hardcopy documents to AHU Office in Jakarta

You’re almost there! Now, compile all of the documents listed below, put in an envelope (but don’t seal it yet because the courier will need to see the content of your envelope) and arrange for delivery with DHL/Fedex.

  • Color Photocopy of your birth certificate & the legalized copy
  • Color Photocopy of your passport & the legalized copy
  • Color Photocopy of your ROM (English & Indonesian) & the legalized copies of both languages, if any. Or photocopy of your Indonesian marriage cert & the legalized copy.
  • Photocopy of ICA’s final approval letter, the translated copy & the legalized copies of both languages
  • 2pcs photo of size 4×6 with red background
  • Color Photocopy of your KTP & the legalized copy
  • Surat permohonan (which you have downloaded in Step 7). You need to paste a materai at the signature field, and sign half on the materai and half on the paper. If unsure, google “tanda tangan materai” to see some samples.
  • Payment receipt from BNI (which you received in Step 10)

The address where you should send the document to is listed in your SAKE mailbox. The below image is what I can see in my mailbox.

Address of AHU in Jakarta
Address of AHU in Jakarta, this page can be found in your mailbox in SAKE portal

By the way, I DO NOT recommend sending your document via Singpost because it takes too long to arrive at AHU. I’d rather pay more but have a peace of mind.

12. Keep praying and checking the SAKE system

It’ll take about 3-5 days for your document to arrive at AHU, you can track its journey through your courier’s website.

After the document arrives at AHU, it’ll take another 3-7 days for AHU to process your application. During this time, you can login to SAKE everyday (remember to clear your cache!) and check if any of the status turns green.

When you see the first green color in the status, it usually means that AHU has started to process your application. The most important status is the second status.

Between each status, there might be a gap of several days. During this stage, you must practice patience.

13. If there is error in your application

If your second status is yellow, it probably means you lack some documents. What you need to do is to wait until the fifth status turns yellow, then click “View” and scroll down to see the comments.

yellow status in SAKE
Yellow status means lack of documents

Below is example of the comments given by AHU. Sometimes, AHU’s comments are hard to understand. In the below example, there were 2 comments, but the first comment has been complied with, so it can be ignored. The real comment is in No 4, it says that ICA’s English letter has to be legalized.

sample of AHU SAKE comment
sample of AHU’s comment in SAKE portal

If you don’t understand their comments, try to contact them through Whatsapp, call enter or email. Here’s AHU contact details.

After you figure out what’s missing here’s what you need to do:

  • Go ahead and prepare that missing document
  • Scan that missing document in JPG/JPEG/PNG
  • Go to SAKE system, click “Ubah” and upload that missing document (PS: the button “Ubah” will only come out when number 5 turns yellow, so don’t be panic if you can’t find it yet)
  • Send the hardcopy of that missing document to AHU office via DHL/Fedex
  • Wait patiently (repeat step 12)

14. If you get all green, congratulations!

If the second status is green, usually it means your application is good. You’ll just have to wait until all status turn green in order to download the approval letter.

Again, practice patience because it’ll take weeks.

15. Download the approval document and get it translated

Now that you have gotten 5 greens, download the approval document. Then, get it translated to English by sworn translator.

If you’re using Anwar, he will give you 2 copies of translation, 1 with photo and 1 without photo.

sake application approved
Sample of approved SAKE application. Click Unduh to download the approval letter.

16. Make appointment with KBRI to surrender your Indonesian passport

At the same time you get the translation done, make appointment with KBRI to surrender your Indonesian passport. To make appointment, go to online appointment system https://services.indonesianembassy.sg/  and choose Keimigrasian.

I’m not able to advise you the detailed steps because I did not use this online appointment. During my time, I made appointment via email at [email protected]

In this step, you’re dealing with Immigration section which is located at Level 1 of KBRI building.

17. Make appointment with KBRI Consular to legalize the approved AHU Letter

At the same time as Step 16, make appointment with KBRI Consular to legalize AHU approval letter via https://services.indonesianembassy.sg/  and choose Kekonsuleran. I’m not able to advise you the detailed steps because I did not use this online appointment service. During my time, I made appointment via email.

In this step, you’re dealing with Consular section which is located at Level 2 of KBRI building.

Do note that you’re dealing with 2 different department of KBRI Step 16 and Step 17, so you can’t combine both of them in a single email or a single appointment.

Update June 2021: Some people reported that it’s no longer necessary to legalize the approved AHU Letter. You may want to check with ICA to confirm that they no longer require the legalized AHU letter.

18. Surrender your Indonesian passport

On your appointment date to surrender passport, make your way to KBRI early because there’ll always be queue at KBRI. Wear appropriately (covered shoes, formal wear, etc).

Remember to bring the hardcopy of your appointment email from KBRI, your passport, and the print out of AHU approval letter.

During my time, no queue number was issued to me, so I had to approach counter 1 to explain about my situation. They then gave me a form to fill up. After that, they’ll ask you to come back the next day to collect the acknowledgment letter.

19. Legalize your AHU approval letter

On your appointment date to legalize AHU approval letter, make your way to KBRI early because there’ll always be queue at KBRI. Wear appropriately (covered shoes, formal wear, etc).

Remember to bring the hardcopy of your appointment email from KBRI, the color print-out of AHU approval letter, the translated version of AHU approval letter (KBRI will take the one without photo), exact amount of SGD 35 cash.

After you take the queue number from security, go up to Level 2 and wait for your name to be called. Submit your documents to Consular, then go down to Level 1 Cashier to make payment.

You’ll be given a date to come back to KBRI to collect the legalized letter.

PS: During my time (mid 2020), it was not difficult to get appointment. However, in the late 2020, people were saying it was really difficult to get appointment with KBRI Consular. If this happens to you, you can try to email ICA and ask whether they accept SAKE approval letter without legalization from KBRI. If they do, good for you, you’re indeed lucky! If not, then you’ll have to practice your patience again.

20. Go to ICA for Oath taking and submission of necessary documents

When you requested for extension in the earlier steps, ICA would’ve given you revised appointment date. On your appointment date with ICA, wear appropriately and bring the following documents.

  • Original ICA’s final approval letter
  • Original color printout of SAKE approval letter in Bahasa Indonesia and English
  • Original legalized English SAKE approval letter from KBRI
  • Acknowledgment letter of your passport surrender from KBRI
  • Your blue IC
  • 3pcs passport-sized photographs taken not more than 3 months ago

When you arrive at ICA, go to Level 6 and scan your ICA’s final approval letter to get a queue number. When your number is called, submit the above documents and make the necessary payment. During my time, it was SGD 80.

After the completion of registration, wait again for your number to be called for Oath taking.

After the Oath taking, you can go back home and submit your passport application online.

Congratulations, you’re officially a citizen of Singapore! But your pink IC will only be given to you during Citizenship Ceremony, so you’ll still need to practice patience. By this time, I’m pretty sure your patience is perfectly honed and you can withstand any challenges in your life calmly. Again, congratulations!

FAQ

What if I don’t have Indonesian passport? Sorry, I have no answer to this, I guess you need to make a new one. But that’s just my guess.

What if I don’t have KTP? Firstly, do you have KK? If yes, you can use KK to retrieve your NIK number, and then legalize the KK and submit together with other documents to AHU. If you don’t have KK, sorry, I have no experience in this. I heard that you can consider applying for NIT as a temporary KTP, and use the NIT number to fill the form where it requested for NIK.

Do the documents need to be legalized by MFA and SLA? Nope, AHU doesn’t require any legalisation from MFA or SLA, they just need legalisation from Indonesian notary. Keep your money and don’t waste time making a trip to MFA/SLA like I did.

Can I go to KBRI without appointment? Nope, appointment is a must.

Please Note

This article is written based on my own experience and what I heard/read from other people. AHU and KBRI change system and procedures ALL. THE. TIME. So, it is possible that some part of my article is no longer valid. Please don’t take my advice as a professional advice. I’m just a blogger that you chance upon on the internet.

I’m not responsible for any changes in procedures and not responsible for any loss/damage you suffer in the course of your application.

I am not related to anyone in AHU, KBRI or ICA. I am not able to act on your behalf.

If you have recently completed the application and you notice some of the things in this article are no longer valid, feel free to let me know in the comment and I’ll do my best to include the new information.

If you have any question related to the procedure, you may ask me in the comment and I’ll do my best to answer if it’s not already stated in the article. I have a full-time job and this blog is just my hobby, so it may take days for me to respond to your comment. Hope for your understanding. And please don’t ask for my handphone number because I’m very shy πŸ™‚

Good luck to your application!

This Post Has 43 Comments

  1. Yenny

    Hi
    Thank you for creating this website. It is very helpful.
    I have some technical questions, hope you can help.
    1. For the KTP copy and legalized, both sides are in 1 page OR we are submitting front page and back page separately.
    2. For our passport, are we legalizing all pages OR only the information page with our photo.
    3. Do all legalized documents need to be in colour?

    Regards

    Yenny

    1. prudentdreamer

      Hi Yenny,
      1. 2 sides in 1 page to save legalisation fee, because the fee is charged based on the number of pages.
      2. I did Front & Back in 1 page.
      3. I don’t think it matters. I have a mix of b&w and colors, they’re all accepted.
      Hope it helps!

  2. lou

    Hi, thank you so much for such detailed information.
    For point 13, Can i ask if you have to wait for all numbers to turn yellow before you can do something about it? because i’ve gotten green for number 1, and yellow for number 2, and still no progress for the rest.

    also, i clicked view and it says ” Lampirkan: Bukti bayarv PNBP ICA versi Indonesia yang diterjemahkan oleh penerjemah tersumpah bahasa Indonesia dan dilegalisir oleh Notaris yang berkedudukan di Indonesia.” what does it mean? hahaha im sorry and thank you.

    1. prudentdreamer

      Hi, you can start to prepare the requested documents now, while waiting for all the buttons to turn yellow. I guess they’re requesting you to send them the payment receipt, and ICA letter which translated and legalized by Indo notary. After all documents is ready and the rest of the button turns yellow, you can follow the steps in point 13.

  3. Jeni

    Hi Prudent Dreamer,

    Thank you so much for the life saving blog!

    Question:
    1. How much materai to put in the “Permohonan surat keterangan kehilangan kewarganegaraan Republik Indonesia”? Is it true that the Rp.6000 materai is now invalid for year 2021?
    2. What if the KTP (Resident Card) is already expired. Is it still alright to legalized it?

    Many thanks!

    Warm Regards,
    Jeni

    1. prudentdreamer

      Hi Jeni,
      I’m glad my post helps πŸ™‚
      1. Referring to point A(v) in my post, I recommend that you use 10,000 materai.
      2. Sorry, I have no answer to this. To be safe, it’s better to renew it first. You can try your luck using the expired KTP but personally I prefer to do things correctly from the beginning. If they accept your expired KTP, that’s great. But, if they reject you, you’ll end up spending even more time, more energy & more money compared with if you renew first, then do the SAKE process.
      All the best!

  4. Rita

    Hi Prudent Dreamer,

    Your blog post on how to renounce our Indonesian citizenship is a huge help !

    The question I have is this. I may need to upload an additional document. In your blog you put “Go to SAKE system, click β€œUbah” and upload that missing document”

    I have been trying to find the UBAH button to upload the missing document. Can you tell me where is it ?

    Thank you so much in advance.

    1. prudentdreamer

      Hi Rita, the button will come up when your number 5 has turned yellow.

  5. Yenny

    Hallo
    Do you need to upload the documents both original version and legalised copies? As i read the wording in the manual e.g. fotokopi kutipan akta lahir. It never ask for legalised one. Can i just upload original copy without legalised one? Also, I dont see separate button to upload legalised documents. Where did you previously upload your legalised documents?

    If we have not completed a section, can we go back to the page again without loosing other information? E.g. we stop completing half way through parent information. When we log in back, can we continue or start from the beginning? Does the 7 days documents submission is from the date we open the account or the date we pay?

    Thank you

    Yenny

    1. prudentdreamer

      Yenny,
      Q1: Please avoid asking the question that I’ve written very clearly (see B.3.)
      Q2: Please avoid asking me about the things that I DID NOT do
      Q3: Please avoid asking the question that I’ve written very clearly (see B.8.)
      Q4, Q5: no
      Q6: Please avoid asking the question that’s already answered in the article (see B.11. and click on the photo)
      Q7: I don’t have the answer because I’m not SAKE
      Please read my article thoroughly before you ask me questions.

  6. Yenny

    Sorry, forgot 1 more question. The 7 days dateline for document submission is applicable for working days or weekends also counted?
    Thank you
    Yenny

  7. fransisca

    hello! can I ask where did you get the materai? thanks!

    1. prudentdreamer

      You can get from shops in lucky plaza or buy online (carousell, etc)

      1. Ani

        Hi Prudent Dreamer, could you please advise the shops’ name in Lucky Plaza? Thanks

        1. prudentdreamer

          Hi Ani, Waroeng Indo used to sell in the past. I’m not sure if they still do now.

  8. Fransisca

    Can i also ask, how did you pay bunhai?

  9. Zita

    Hi Prudentdreamer,

    Did you surrender your original KTP to Embassy?

  10. Kurniawan

    Hi Prudent dreamer,

    Just to ask, when you surrender your passport in KBRI. do you have to surrender your KTP as well?

    Thank you.

  11. Mel

    Hi PrudentDreamer, thank u so much for the taking the time to write down this super comprehensive guide for us:”) I have submitted and mailed over all the documents required to AHU but received the following response from them:

    “Melalui pemberitahuan ini, kami sampaikan bahwa permohonan Surat Keterangan Kehilangan Kewarganegaraan yang Saudara ajukan DIKEMBALIKAN. Berikut adalah data kewarganegaraan saudara:

    Jenis Permohonan : Permohonan Surat Keterangan Kehilangan Kewarganegaraan RI Atas Kemauan Sendiri Bagi Orang Yang Telah Memperoleh Kewarganegaraan Asing

    Keterangan : SALAH DISPO

    Bersamaan dengan pemberitahuan ini, maka pemohon harap memperbaiki permohonan tersebut. Demikian pemberitahuan ini kami sampaikan. Terimakasih.”

    They sent me this and only the first status in my SAKE account is lighted green. I am so lost as to what I have to do from this email but I can’t seem to reach them either:( If you happen to know how I can go about settling this issue, please let me know, I am more than grateful for any forms of help.

    1. prudentdreamer

      Hi Mel,
      Could it be that you chose the wrong option? It looks like you chose “TELAH Memperoleh Kewarganegaraan Asing” this option is meant for kids who have gotten Singapore’s passport. If you chose the wrong option, you need to repeat the entire process from beginning and choose the correct option which is “BELUM Memperoleh Kewarganegaraan Asing”

      1. Mel

        Hi PrudentDreamer, thank you for the replying:)) I went to check and I chose “Belum Memperoleh…” though. But anyways, somehow I have 4 green status already, so I guess they might have sent it by mistake hahah

        1. Raisa

          Hi Mel, did you choose the option “TELAH Memperoleh” because you already had an existing Singapore passport? Because in my case, I have obtained a Singapore passport since young because I’m considered a minor citizen of Singapore. So when doing SAKE application, which option should I choose? And I do not have a KTP at all, how do I go about?

          1. prudentdreamer

            From my limited understanding about renunciation of Indo citizenship for minors, you need to choose “TELAH” and if you don’t have Indo KTP or passport, you need to make one. Then again, I really have no experience in this matter, perhaps you can seek help from KBRI or other people who have successfully done so.

          2. Mel

            I chose the correct one but they made a mistake in sending me the email as they thought I chose the other one. I can confirm that it is mistake on their end because I managed to get all five ticks just today. As for the KTP, I did not have one as well, so I used my Kartu Keluarga (KK) instead and it works! Need to legalise KK as well too:)

        2. Vonny

          First thanks to prudent dreamer for your details guidance. Your blog is the most details one so far compare to others. πŸ™‚

          Hello Mel,
          Sorry to ride on your post. I just want to know do you have the five green tick now? And how long do you wait from 4 green tick to 5 green tick. I have waited for 1 weeks but no change of status to five tick. Thank you

          1. Mel

            Hi Vonny, I have just gotten my fifth tick today, it takes around 6 days for it to turn from 4 to 5 ticks. Just give it some time as they really do take a while for the verification.

  12. sien

    Hi Prudent Dreamer,

    I have lost my ktp, and i am in stage 3 now. Do you have any advice how i should proceed? Do you know of any way I can do ktp in singapore?
    Please help T_T

    Thank you

    1. prudentdreamer

      Hi Sien,
      From my limited understanding, you need to create a new KTP in Indo. Perhaps your family/relatives can help you?

      1. sien

        Hi Prudentdreamer,

        thank you for your quick response. your page is really a great help.
        i’m still stuck at the KTP part..
        anyway, do you know of anyone applying for legalisation of their documents this year? from indo web, updated 17mar 21, it seems like we can only legalise the docs at embassy?

        anyone here knows about this?

        1. prudentdreamer

          Hi sien, you got KK? If yes, try your luck by sending in your legalised KK. No idea about legalisation from embassy. Just try with notary first. Sometimes, people tend to panic when they read something on the internet. Sometimes, ignorance is bliss πŸ™‚

        2. Zita

          Hi Sien,

          I’m just trying to help. Legalisation Indonesian documents? You can do it with any Indonesia Notaris. Hope this helps.

  13. Cel

    Hi Prudent Dreamer,

    Thank you so much for the details steps, I always open your blog to see what’s the next step to do and all went smoothly. Finally I got all 5 ticks green today πŸ™‚ I checked in KBRI website that we still need to make appointment via email to surrender Indonesian passport. May I know how long did you get reply frm KBRI on the appointment date and do we need to call to follow up as well? Thanks

    1. prudentdreamer

      Congrats, Cel! Usually the passport division (1st storey) replies quite fast, they replied me within minutes. But the consular division (2nd storey) replies really slowly, they replied me within 1 day though but that was in mid 2020, so things might be different now. And yes, it’s better to follow up if they don’t reply.

  14. Nita

    Hi Prudent Dreamer,

    Many thanks for describing the renunciation process in so much detail, initially I was very anxious but feel more assured after reading your post. πŸ˜‰

    May I know roughly how long it took you to complete the whole process, starting from sending the ICA letter for translation by Anwar until you finally attend your appointment at ICA for oath taking (step 1 to 20 in your post)? I just received the ICA letter and they set my appointment 3 weeks from now, which seems really short. I am thinking to request for extension immediately for prudence, but not sure for how long.

    Thanks in advance!

    1. prudentdreamer

      Hi Nita, it took me 3 months from receiving the first AIP to oath taking. And 2 months between receiving the second letter from ICA until oath taking. Yes, 3 weeks are too short. Can consider extending for 1 month first, then later request to extend again if you can’t make it.

  15. Fifi The

    Hi.

    Very useful info. Now im stuck because i lost my KTP. Not sure what will happen. Do you have in mind like what is the issue if we dont have KTP

  16. Alex Ho

    Hi
    EXTREMELY Useful blog! I would not be able to jump thorugh these hoops without it. I am at my final stages. But I would like to clarify the following. For the STEP 20. There is bring along “Original legalized SAKE approval letter from KBRI” –> Is this the ENGLISH translated one? Because that’s all the KBRI provided as the legalised SAKE Approval letter. Please advise.

  17. Jef

    Hi, Prudent Dreamer.
    Thank you so much for writing these steps! I got my temporary pink IC today πŸ™‚
    Just want to help fellow applicants with regard to KTP and consular service.

    1) My KTP was electric KTP which was issued in 2012 and was supposed to expire in 2017. Nevertheless, SAKE and AHU had no problem with that (I never renewed it

    2) I never legalized any document (including “Surat Keputusan” from SAKE) with KBRI consular service. Instead, Anwar’s translation and stamp was enough.

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